Sasuke Uchiha MBTI

 Sasuke Uchiha MBTI


 ISFP (The artistic)

Why Sasuke is ISFP instead of INTJ

Today in this post I will make an explanation about the MBTI (Myers Briggs Type Indicator) of Sasuke Uchiha from the manga and anime series Naruto, Naruto Shippuden and Boruto Naruto next generations

Remembering some details before the analysis,

1-Fictional characters do not necessarily have a fixed personality, the personality can vary in different scenarios and arcs during the episodes.

2-Sasuke went through a major trauma during his childhood, and this can impact his personality, according to CG Jung, after major trauma the type can even change.

3-I do not intend to defame, or mock people who think Sasuke is INTJ (or ISTJ, ISTP, INFP etc...), I am not the owner of the truth, and I am just explaining my point of view based on individual studies.

Having said all that

Fi=It is about creating your own, more informed view of what is right, 

this does not mean that ISFP's are good, kind or sensitive

Te=Collects external data, and creates logic based on the consistent data

It does not mean that INTJ's are cold or insensitive

Te ignores the individual's own opinion primarily, focuses on primarily creating data and logic based on the environment

Extroverted judgment functions (which I will call Je, which are Te/Fe) focus on judging based on the world, the subject's opinion is ignored in order to get a foothold in the world, either on a logical or sentimental path

Ep 108 Naruto 

Kakashi: "You will end up suffering and hurting yourself even more, even if you do succeed in getting revenge the only thing that remain is emptiness

Sasuke: "Shut up! What do you know? Don't lecture me as if you what it' like!

Sasuke: "Then how about it? Should I kill the most important person to you right now".

Here Sasuke is activating his judgment function, since he is judging what Kakashi did, but in this case, at no point does Sasuke judge based on logic, he doesn't try to understand the logical concepts in what Kakashi said

He just appeals to the sentimental side

Saying things like "I suffered a lot", "If I killed someone important to you, what would you do?"

In this she's just talking about her values, and about how Kakashi is wrong, but she's not trying to find a logical middle ground, just blowing up her sentimental view to try to convince that Kakashi is *morally* wrong

With this you can already see a preference for feeling rather than thinking

Ep 3 Naruto

Sakura: "Naruto is an orphan, because he always does selfish things, if it was me I would always get scolded by my parents, but since Naruto doesn't have parents... he's very annoying."

Sasuke: "The pain of getting scolded by your parents doesn't even compare to the pain of loneliness."

Sakura: "What?"

Sasuke: "You are annoying".

Just like in Kakashi's example, Sasuke at no point tries to look for logic, he just says why Sakura is morally wrong (In his view), he thought what Sakura said was against his values (since he spent his entire childhood in solitude he thinks it is morally wrong to see someone saying what Sakura said)

That's Fi.

Now a point that can be controversial

All the objectives of Sasuke were guided by his values

I will explain

1-Sasuke wanted to kill Itachi
2-Sasuke wanted to destroy Konoha
3-Sasuke wanted to be Hokage

These three were the main goals, which were fluctuating during the course of the anime, the first goal I don't think is indicative of Fi's strength, I think any guy would want revenge after having his family and clan killed

But the 2nd and 3rd were clearly guided by Fi, Sasuke thought what they did to Itachi was unfair, and wanted to destroy the pillars of Konoha (mainly Danzo), he ignored all external information, if Itachi didn't do the massacre there was going to be a huge war, but Sasuke completely ignores what comes from external judgment, and focuses only on his own judgment 

He also ignores the reasons why Itachi did what he did
(Proof of this)
"I don't think anything you say now has any case. When I saw you, I decided to follow you to see if what Danzou and Tobi told me was true or not. But that wasn't the only reason, when I'm with you, I remember how things were before. I remember the time I spent with the brother I saw as an example, the brother I loved. That's why the closer I get to you, the more I remember how those days were and the better I understood you. I hate the Konoha village more and more for the suffering they put you through. Also, my hatred is stronger than before. I understand what you want me to do. Probably because you are my older brother, you feel that you must put me on the right path. But probably because I am your younger brother, I will never stop, no matter what you say. Just as you have always protected the village, I will always destroy it. Goodbye brother."

-(Sasuke's phrase to his brother Itachi after reviving with edo tensei)

It is also worth remembering that throughout the anime Sasuke completely ignored external judgment, 100%, 

-Kakashi tried to explain to Sasuke why revenge is never a good way
-Sakura tried to stop Sasuke
-Naruto tried to stop Sasuke a bunch of times
-even Sai tried to change Sasuke

But Sasuke completely ignores the demands of external judgments

Why? 

Precisely because his judgment is extremely subjective and internal, Fi tries to get rid of external rules, and that's very much Sasuke

"Just shut up for once! What the hell do you know about it! It's not like you had a family in the first place! You were alone from the beginning, what makes you think you know anything about it?! Huh! I'm suffering now because I had those ties, how could you possibly understand what it's like to lose all that!"

Just like I said above in several points above, Sasuke in this sentence just appeals to his sentimental side, even those who say Sasuke is INTJ have to admit that Sasuke most of the time acts on his feelings, here, in this sentence, he didn't try to explain to Naruto his logic to make the decisions, solely he was talking about his view on *value*

"that makes you think you know anything about it?! Huh?!"

In general, Sasuke is mirroring his values and questioning Naruto, no intention to find a logical view

"whether objective facts or generally valid ideas. This type of man gives the deciding voice-not merely for himself alone but also on behalf of his entourage-either to the actual objective reality or to its objectively oriented."
•-~Carl Gustav Jung About Te~-•

Te, will try to create logical patterns, based on the SET, and not on the individual

Which is the opposite of Sasuke as stated above

By the way, have you seen why Sasuke didn't get his arm back, and why he didn't kill Naruto in the valley of the end (in the first season)?

Both situations show Sasuke's introvert feelings

Sasuke, according to himself, didn't kill Naruto because he didn't want to be like his brother Itachi Uchiha

He didn't kill Naruto because he considered what his brother did something clearly against his personal and internal values, that's Fi (could be Ti too)

The reason he didn't get his arm back after the final fight with Naruto is because he considered the lost arm as a payment, he didn't think he was worthy of receiving a new arm, that's Fi, even if it's an illogical decision, still Sasuke considered it the right thing to do

"You toy with people's lives for the sake of this vain and ridiculous cause of yours. You disgust me!"

A pretty Fi>Te sentence, although any guy could say that, so not very convincing 

I've talked enough about his method of judgment (Fi) now I'll go more into his method of perception (SeNi)

Se is like an optical lens, Se sees in the world only what is in the world, without adding any insight or internal abstraction

Which is the opposite of Ni, which focuses on a much more internal image on a more microscopically subjective level

Se is the opposite of Ni in nature, however Sasuke demonstrates to have both functions of perception in his stack, the SeNi axis is much more present than NeSi

Se: Seeks to have stimuli in the world

Ni: Seeks an internal understanding of patterns 

"I've told you before, I'm an avenger. I don't care for this test, Chunin or whatever. 'Am I strong?' that's the answer I want." 

This sentence refers to a more conscise use of Se, which wants to have its stimuli, the result for Sasuke doesn't matter, he just wants to understand what happens, Se strong (This in Motes and Beans)

By the way, do you see how in general Sasuke never cares about the result, but rather about the process?

He doesn't want to kill Itachi to actually kill Itachi, he wants to kill Itachi to get revenge

He doesn't care about the outcome or the consequences of his actions (Lack Ni+Te)

this becomes clear when he deliberately attacks Itachi naively, thinking that his strength was already enough to defeat Itachi

The same can be said when he calls Naruto to the hospital for a fight

Sasuke was hospitalized, he wasn't at full strength, but he doesn't exactly think of the consequences that his actions could generate in the future, he does things to have results in the PRESENT (for example, when he calls Naruto to a fight, he wanted to prove to Naruto that he was stronger, but he didn't think of the future consequences of that, which shows a preference for Pe Ne/Se rather than Pi Ni/Si)

We can see in general how Sasuke is driven by two stimuli during the series, the thirst for revenge, and his rivalry with Naruto

This is Se

The same is true of Naruto (a Se dom), however I would say that Naruto is a healthy Se user, and Sasuke is an unhealthy Se user

Sasuke when it comes to perception, is extremely realistic, he sees things as they are, we can see how he criticizes Naruto's constant craziness, he is not as vital and deep to be Ni dom, his world view is much more real and visual, he sees the world through a more realistic and concrete optical lens than the other intuitive characters in the series 

Now, to say that Sasuke is Ni dom because his goals is guided towards the future, would be a very limited view, every guy can have ambitions and goals for the future.

I will add a detail about Sasuke's Ni.

Fi-Ni loop

After the massacre, Sasuke started using Ni more than Se, this explains why people think he is INTJ, but we can see that his Ni use is very forced, and not healthy and consistent as it should be in a Ni dom

Consistent use of Ni (Dominant/Auxiliary)

-Good ability to identify patterns
-Very good abstract thinking
-Theoretical
-Profound
-Very good ability to "read between the lines

Forced use of Ni (Loop)
-Disregard for the here and now
-Difficulty in dealing with reality
-Rebel of
-Aggressive
-Very stuck in his own way of thinking.

Which is better in Sasuke?

He focuses on his future goal of killing Itachi because he was forced to, 

Compare to Sasuke child, Sasuke child seemed more excited about life, wanted to enjoy the present moment, but after the massacre he was FORCED to use his Ni, this explains why Sasuke doesn't like to be attached to the present moment, although his Se is nowhere near as repressed as Te

Fi>Se>Ni>Te

Study source: http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Jung/types.htm 

Rest of Sasuke's typology:
Enneagram:4w3sx/sp, 458 (Triptype)
Temperament:Melancholic
Big Five:RLOEN

#Naruto #NarutoShippuden #SasukeUchiha #ISFP

Comentários

  1. Refutation 👇

    1️⃣ Dialogue between Kakashi and Sasuke (after fighting Naruto on the roof) proves Fi dominance?

    No offense, but this was just another repeated argument that appeals to circumstantial cases.

    Let's make one thing very clear:

    Whenever, whenever, and whenever the tenor of the situation involves Itachi and the Uchiha clan, Sasuke is unable of pondering the matter as balanced as he usually does in other situations.

    At that time, he is beside himself, his thoughts are cloudy and his cognition is messed up.

    The name of this is 👉OUTLIER.👈 A non-standard case.

    Sasuke's normal is to ponder things in terms of "it works or not", as he does in the Forest of Death, choosing to give the scroll to Orochimaru and survive as Orochimaru was clearly stronger. This is Sasuke's normal, using impersonal and objective external criteria to make decisions.

    Sasuke was determined to get strong to kill Itachi, and losing to Naruto is a big reality check. You can't expect him to be in his right mind to get advice, any type could have that reaction.

    Also, you got one thing wrong: Sasuke doesn't rate ANYTHING in terms of right or wrong. Even Kishimoto has already stated this.

    Sasuke just does whatever it takes to get what he wants, whether right or wrong, he just doesn't care.

    This kind of circumstantial logic could equally be applied to Kurapika, who neglected advices several times and gave in several times to the emotions of the moment.

    2️⃣ Sasuke talking about loneliness to Sakura, considering her annoying, does it prove Fi dominance?

    Again, another case linked to his trauma.

    This was the first display of empathy from Sasuke, identifying himself with Naruto's feelings.

    I agree that this is Fi, not that it is dominant, as, again, it is a circumstantial case of Fi.

    3️⃣ Sasuke's top 3 goals prove Fi dominance?

    You yourself agreed that wanting to kill Itachi is something any type could have.

    But then you said that destroying Konoha and becoming Hokage were Fi goals.

    Destroying Konoha was the shortest-lived, most circumstantial goal of all, which he momentarily set out during his revolt after discovering the truth about Itachi.

    The last one was the apex of Sasuke's Ni. There's nothing Fi about it.

    Wanting to become a Hokage who would focus all the hate of the ninja world on himself to bring peace, while living a renegade life like Itachi, is exactly the production of an ideal future world thinking steps ahead of the unfolding events. Pure Ni.

    4️⃣ Sasuke rejecting the judgments of others (like Kakashi, Sakura and Naruto) proves Fi-dom and Te-inf?

    Here it is evident that you don't correctly understand what Te is.

    Te has nothing to do with taking into account the judgment that OTHER PEOPLE make. This is Fe. Fe tries to keep up with the collective.

    Te keeps up with data, facts, evidence, in order to have results, to reach the final product. And that's what he does most of the time.

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    1. 5️⃣ Does the desire to be strong and have more power prove Se-aux?

      This is an excellent argument...

      ... in favor of Te.

      Sasuke doesn't crave power for its own sake, power as an end in itself, the sensation of power.

      "the result for Sasuke doesn't matter"

      This is a false statement. Sasuke always made it very clear why he wanted to be stronger. The result is all that matters for him.

      Sasuke wants power for one reason: to achieve his goal.

      Sasuke is like:

      Will using the cursed seal help me kill Itachi? So I want.

      Will sacrificing my body to Orochimaru help me kill Itachi? So I want.

      Will developing new techniques help me kill Itachi? So I want.

      Will these bonds of friendship I've created stop me from killing Itachi? Then I'll cut them.

      Is there anything more Te>Fi than that?

      There is nothing Se about seeking power, even the stereotype of a villain who seeks more power and dominance is high Te-users.

      "he does things to have 👉results👈 in the PRESENT"

      Exactly, and that is Te, not Se. Se seeks sensation, Te seeks result.

      6️⃣ Was Sasuke's Ni forced to override his other functions, causing him to reject Se?

      This is the equivalent of saying that Sasuke was unhealthy and under stress for 100% of the anime, as he NEVER showed Se not once, even in Boruto, when he is completely healthy.

      Sasuke is mentally stable for most of the Classic, up until the time he faces Itachi.

      There's nothing forced about his Ni, he uses it very naturally, just like Te. He never enjoys nor experience the rising events, he always just interpret them, as we see in first bell training, each Chunnin test, even in his fights.

      Sasuke being a Se-user will be an eternal problem for ISFP voters to deal with.

      And what was that? 👇

      "Forced use of Ni (Loop)
      -Disregard for the here and now
      -Difficulty in dealing with reality
      -Rebel of
      -Aggressive
      -Very stuck in his own way of thinking."

      The first 2 prove Se-inf, the other 2 are pure behaviorism, and the last one is debatable.

      I recommend that you read the symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Sasuke's controversial behavior is completely explained through PTSD.

      I'm not even going to comment on kid Sasuke, talking about typology in a generic stereotype of kid sounds absurd to me.

      ✅ My personal conclusion:

      The arguments are entirely based on CIRCUMSTANTIAL expressions of the functions, outliers, attitudes outside the curve of the mentality pattern that the character actually shows.

      It's worth noting that ALL, absolutely ALL of the quotes and dialogues mentioned in this article are related to stressful events.

      I didn't see any intention to analyze the character outside of these cases, looking at his most ordinary cognitive pattern.

      As Jung himself says, if certain functions seems pathological and abnormal in a person, it is very likely that they are not among the main functions.

      Sasuke's Fi literally looks like a disease. Reason? It's not a natural function for him.

      ❓ Why Kurapika is not equally ISFP?

      I love bringing Kurapika to the conversation, to show how this circunstantial logic is unfounded.

      Sasuke was undoubtedly inspired in Kurapika, almost a copy.

      Basically, all the arguments presented could equally be used to justify that Kurapika is ISFP.

      When it comes to Ryodan (the murderers) and the Kurata (the clan), Kurapika can't think straight.

      He loses control several times, vents anger, doesn't listen to anyone, and has much more expressive moral opinions than Sasuke.

      Despite that, I've never seen anyone argue that Kurapika isn't an INTJ because of that.

      Kurapika and Sasuke are exactly alike in everything. What works for one must work for the other.

      I doubt that the author of the article believes that Kurapika is ISFP. If his logic doesn't apply to him, then Sasuke isn't an ISFP based on that.

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